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Smearing O'Reilly

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The morning after CNN and MSNBC began salivating over a potential "Imus moment" pushed by a far-left group to suppress Bill O'Reilly over a supposedly racist remark, CBS and NBC on Wednesday advanced the liberal group's cause with multi-part segments on the topic. But while NBC's Today at least provided some balance and proper labeling, CBS's Early Show, with "In Hot Water" and "O'Race Factor" on screen, aired a story which failed to identify the ideology of Media Matters and followed with Julie Chen pressing the only guest to agree O'Reilly's comment was racist and that he must issue an apology. Amazingly, neither show bothered to mention that Juan Williams, the black journalist who was on O'Reilly's radio show when the FNC host made the remarks in question, defended O'Reilly: "It had nothing to do with racist ranting by anybody except these idiots at CNN."

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Exploiting and Distorting

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Reply#1 - Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:11 PM EDT
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Just as Media Matters has mis-reported and distorted remarks by Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity, so too are they engaging in a lying smear campaign against Bill O'Reilly. And, their shills at MSNBC, NBC, CBS, and CNN are picking up the ball and running with it. Too bad they are running with demonstrably false statements.

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Reply#2 - Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:12 PM EDT
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This is the firsthand account from Juan Williams about the actual comments made by Bill O'Reilly which have been so mis-represented by Media Matters.

Juan Williams: What O'Reilly Actually Told Me

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Reply#3 - Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:02 PM EDT
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WHOOPS! Here is the corrected link...

Juan Williams: What O'Reilly Actually Told Me

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#3.1 - Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:10 PM EDT
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Thanks for seeding these, Tom.

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Reply#4 - Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:35 PM EDT
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Glad to be of service! I don't always agree with O'Reilly or Juan Williams, but they are getting the shaft here. It's really very ugly and scary what's being done. And the Left is running hard and fast with this story. To those who don't know the facts, there could be a real impression created that, "Oh yeah, that O'Reilly is a racist." Such false labeling shuts down anything O'Reilly has to say in the minds of many. It's actually a neat little Stalinist trick of discrediting, marginalizing, and then eliminating one's enemies.

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#4.1 - Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:54 PM EDT
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More facts and links.

O'Reilly and the Non-Racist Remarks

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Reply#5 - Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:07 PM EDT
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I listened to his comments and didn't react too strongly, either. I felt that what he said did show evidence of offensive racial stereotypes, however he also showed a bit of personal growth. I was happy he shared what he did about his experience on the air. In the past, I've felt he has too closely aligned rap culture with mainstream black culture - that is not the case and he learned that with his trip to Sylvia's.

He did say that he personally couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference between Sylvia's and any predominantly-white restaurant in NYC. That, combined with the MF-ing iced tea quip, are really doing them in. Yeah, they're offensive and certainly are driven by racial stereotypes, but his overall message was that he, personally, also learned something that day. I thought that was great.

I did not feel it was an "Imus" moment. Of all the times I've been offended by O'Reilly, this was one of the least offensive moments. I hope he goes back to Sylvia's again and continues to expose himself to more of the America he thinks he knows so well.

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Reply#6 - Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:58 PM EDT
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That is a very reasonable and insightful note, clearcache. Thanks for writing.

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#6.1 - Sun Sep 30, 2007 4:42 AM EDT
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Very well said, clearcache.

I had a similar reaction. At first, I was absolutely astounded that someone could be having this revelation so late in life. He also seemed so unselfconscious about proclaiming the 'normalness' of African Americans to his audience. I've never really heard anything quite like it, and to be honest, I was angry about the way he chose to relate this story.

But...after I thought about it, I realized that this seemed to actually be an attempt by O'Reilly to caution people against accepting these negative stereotypes about black people. Yes, he did it very awkwardly and thoughtlessly, but I'm with clearcache, I'm glad that he learned something from his experience.

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#6.2 - Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:49 PM EDT
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Thanks, tmivy, very well said.

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#6.3 - Sun Sep 30, 2007 8:31 PM EDT
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