
Abortion is back with, dare we say it, biblical vengeance.
Republicans recently have been focused on Barack Obama's opposition several years ago to "born alive" legislation in Illinois that mirrored similar federal legislation aimed at granting personhood to a fetus/baby that was alive after removal from its mother's body, either by abortion or premature birth.
In the past few weeks, Obama has been accused of everything from favoring infanticide to lying about his vote, to inventing a cover-up, to being a baby-killing extremist.
To learn more about the horrific practice of labor-induced abortion, and Obama's support for it, read here.
This is not partial birth abortion. This is called induced labor abortion, and for this procedure, the physician inserts a medication into the mom's birth canal that dilates the cervix, and the intent is for the baby be delivered prematurely. They're fully formed, but very small.
So when the cervix opens, essentially, the baby falls out of the uterus, and it is anticipated that the baby will die during the birth process or soon afterwards. But sometimes these babies live for a time.
Christ Hospital, where I worked, confessed to the "Chicago Sun-Times" in 2001 that between 10 and 20 percent of babies at that hospital that were aborted by this method survived.
An interesting take on this developing story ...
Catholic News Agency Reports on Obama and Born Alive Infants Protection Act
A devastating critique from the Oregonian ...
E ver wonder how Barack Obama, the great healer, ended up with a more radical record on abortion than Sen. Hillary Clinton or even the zealots at NARAL Pro-Choice America? It comes down to the "Born-Alive Infants Protection Act." The bill was designed to provide legal protection for babies born alive during an abortion. Babies like the ones ex-nurse Jill Stanek saw discarded and left for dead at her hospital. The experience moved her to push for "Born Alive" legislation in Illinois, but Obama voted against the legislation -- three times.
Congress passed the federal "Born Alive" bill in 2002 without one opposing vote. Not even NARAL opposed the legislation, which President Bush signed into law with Stanek in attendance.
Why couldn't Obama, who talks about reaching across the aisle, find it in his heart to tiptoe onto this vast common ground to help the least among us? He's said since 2003 that he was all for "Born Alive" protection and that he would have voted for the federal bill if he had been in Congress; the problem was that the Illinois legislation didn't include the federal act's "neutrality clause." This clause limited the protection to infants born alive. It was a substantively pointless but politically crucial provision, since it addressed abortion-rights advocates' fears that the act might undercut Roe v. Wade's abortion right. (Substantively pointless because the bill applies only to an infant born alive and not a fetus or baby in utero.)
Here's the problem with Obama's explanation: The National Right to Life Committee has unrefuted records from the Illinois Legislature that prove it has no basis in fact.
Report from the Philadelphia Inquirer ...
Obama: The Elephant in the Room
Fighting on the fringe with a handful of liberals is one thing, but consider his position on an issue that passed both houses of Congress unanimously in 2002.
That bill was the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. During the partial-birth abortion debate, Congress heard testimony about babies that had survived attempted late-term abortions. Nurses testified that these preterm living, breathing babies were being thrown into medical waste bins to die or being "terminated" outside the womb. With the baby now completely separated from the mother, it was impossible to argue that the health or life of the mother was in jeopardy by giving her baby appropriate medical treatment.
The act simply prohibited the killing of a baby born alive. To address the concerns of pro-choice lawmakers, the bill included language that said nothing "shall be construed to affirm, deny, expand or contract any legal status or legal right" of the baby. In other words, the bill wasn't intruding on Roe v. Wade.
Who would oppose a bill that said you couldn't kill a baby who was born? Not Kennedy, Boxer or Hillary Rodham Clinton. Not even the hard-core National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL). Obama, however, is another story. The year after the Born Alive Infants Protection Act became federal law in 2002, identical language was considered in a committee of the Illinois Senate. It was defeated with the committee's chairman, Obama, leading the opposition.
Let's be clear about what Obama did, once in 2003 and twice before that. He effectively voted for infanticide. He voted to allow doctors to deny medically appropriate treatment or, worse yet, actively kill a completely delivered living baby. Infanticide - I wonder if he'll add this to the list of changes in his next victory speech and if the crowd will roar: "Yes, we can."
How could someone possibly justify such a vote? In March 2001, Obama was the sole speaker in opposition to the bill on the floor of the Illinois Senate. He said: "We're saying they are persons entitled to the kinds of protections provided to a child, a 9-month child delivered to term. I mean, it would essentially bar abortions, because the equal-protection clause does not allow somebody to kill a child." So according to Obama, "they," babies who survive abortions or any other preterm newborns, should be permitted to be killed because giving legal protection to preterm newborns would have the effect of banning all abortions.
Justifying the killing of newborn babies is deeply troubling, but just as striking is his rigid adherence to doctrinaire liberalism. Apparently, the "audacity of hope" is limited only to those babies born at full term and beyond. Worse, given his support for late-term partial-birth abortions that supporters argued were necessary to end the life of genetically imperfect children, it may be more accurate to say the audacity of hope applies only to those babies born healthy at full term.
A helpful and factual guide ...
Links to Barack Obama's votes on IL's Born Alive Infant Protection Act
His "punish with a baby" remark will dog him and deservedly. What an idiotic thing to say.
It really shows what Obama actually thinks and how deeply he is influenced (and owned) by the extremists at Planned Parenthood and NARAL.
Extinction is a reward in Obama's mind. Survival is a punishment.
I come at this issue from a different viewpoint (evolutionary biology - anathema to many believers I guess) but arrive in pretty much the same place. Survival means reproductive success, offspring...abortion, infanticide, are reproductive failures for both the individual and the group.
Very good points, Sem.
The West, and Western Euro "Civilization" is aborting itself into oblivion. Failure to reproduce, and insistence upon non-reproductivity is having massive consequences in cultures that advocate this anti-humanity.
That is how Russia and most of Europe are dying off, and why they Need to import more and more people from Africa and Asia.
Chairman Mao made the point once as well, stating that China would out-reproduce the West. (He used more colorful language to describe it.)
The flaw in Mao's plan was China's institution of their brutal "one child" policy. Abortion, infanticide, and infant abandonment are rampant in China. The little girls are so often victimized ... it's one of the most horribly sad and angering stories in the world today.
Yes, China's forced abortions have created economic prosperity at a monstrous human cost. But don't forget India with the ultrasound and abortion combination against girl/female fetuses, this one isn't government imposed, but it is equally nauseating.
Sem, it is horrifying. Why aren't more human rights groups, pro-women groups, and for that matter, pro-life groups highlighting this?
But, it's true. Hard to believe such monstrosity could happen in a supposedly civilized and advancing nation.
Amanda Carpenter writes a thoughtful article in 2006 ...
Newsvine's own WT Huston has a couple of reports ...
Campaign Admits Obama Lied About Abortion Vote, Media Asleep
Obama Lied About Vote Against Live-Birth Abortion Ban, Media Mum
The sad thing about this entire subject is that it all could easily be avoided. Abstinence, contraception, adoptions and taking responsibility for your actions. If you say you are and adult and can do adult things, then act like an adult by taking responsibility for your life and actions. These are helpless, innocent babies! 1,500,000 mistakes every year in America alone. When it really can be summed up with one word. SELFISHNESS! It is people like BO that are ruining this country.
Clo, your remark won't be popular here on Newsvine, and it is politically incorrect to discuss personal responsibility, but what you said is so true. Thanks for having the courage to say it!
Tom B. I have never wanted to win a popularity contest. It always baffles me how thinking people can be for abortion. It is one of the 7 things that God detests. The shedding of innocent blood. The scarey part of this is, He gives us the leaders that we deserve. We might be in for some trouble!
That's why I'm praying for God's mercy and not God's judgement. And, that transcends any Presidential election, for sure. How the rising tide of 45 million abortions since 1973 must break God's heart!
Two weeks ago I held our newborn granddaughter for the first time. (I know, I know, scary thought, the Angry family gets larger). It was the most touching moment I have had, since I held her mother some 20 years ago.
I cannot fathom the thought of the live birth abortion. It just goes against every human instinct to let the defenseless suffer and pass in that manner. And I don't buy for one minute that Obama didn't know what he was doing when he opposed the legislation.
AWM, your post illustrates so clearly why the polls show that people who have children and grandchildren are much less likely to favor abortion than those who do not have children. Experience teaches us that we cannot dismiss an unborn child as merely a "fetus" or a "blastoma" or irrelevant blob of tissue. Some radical feminists call an unborn baby a "parasite."
Of course, with infanticide, we're no longer talking about an unborn child, but a NEWBORN, which is even more horrifying. Did you know that prominent academic "ethicists" such as Dr. Peter Singer of Princeton advocate a point of view that says a child is not really a human until they are about 3 years old?
We are living in some dark days when views like that can be held by prominent teachers ... or politicians.
Tom B.
You are correct in appealing to the mercies of God. His mercies are everlasting and new every morning. (combination of scripture). If He gave us what we deserve, we would wind up with BHO, but let all of us that believe, pray to a Holy and merciful God for His mercy and grace.
Very nicely put, Clo. That's our best hope.
Oh, my dear God. I am horrified and heartbroken.
How could Sen. Obama go on and on in the Saddleback event, professing the "need to protect the least of us" on multiple occasions? How could he talk so smoothly and compassionately when he has taken such a cold blooded stand?
By what mental gymnastics does he excuse himself for his atrocity against humanity? Do the teachings of the Good Samaritan mean nothing to him? Has he no understanding of a Sin of Omission? These are concepts any lawyer should understand, no matter his professed faith.
My heart breaks for the babies who suffered and died horrific deaths due to Obama's votes in Illinois. May he never, ever be put in a position "to protect and defend" anything I hold dear.
Barak is not a Christian, solely by saying he is. A tree is known by its fruit.
Oh, my dear God. I am horrified and heartbroken.
My precise reaction when I learned of this story.
Why isn't the "mainstream" media all over it?
What will be entertaining is watching the liberals spin, dissemble and obfuscate trying to defend the indefensible. Popcorn anyone?
Only if the mainstream media will do their jobs and get this story out to the broader American public.
Truthfully, if most Americans knew of this story, and the sickening details, Obama's candidacy would be in seriously bad trouble.
True that, Tom
Very few people, relatively speaking, have heard about this controversy, and even fewer understand the shockingly grisly details. If the mainstream media won't cover it, then it will be up to the blogosphere and other Web 2.0 and 3.0 outlets to get the word out until critical mass is reached.
We need to hear directly from Senator Barack Obama about this.
I think their is still a little bit of disbelief ... I've posted Obama History on Abortion and Infanticide (which I've just added a link to your post) going into a lot of different sources from National Right to Life Committee ... NARAL which was neutral on the 2003 vote. And going into other background information. ... truly his vote and statements are disturbing
Where are those links, Wayne? I'd love to see them, because I think they would be helpful. Thanks!
He can't post links yet, Wayne (cool name btw) you should email them to Tom and he can post them
This thread has now officially become "Wayne's World"!
Here's the so called 500 lb Gorilla that needs to be addressed as a question to either or all candidates.
Does a mother's right (it's not just a woman's right remember, it does take two.) over ride a father's right to an abortion?
As a divorced, and remarried father of 1, it always amazes me that most of the population leaves out the paternal side of this child making experience. It takes two, one male, one female, the mere fact that the female carries a child does not give the 51% share in the business.
I would love to trip up any politician with this little commonly overlooked fact and truth.
Abortion is wrong because it takes a life, ask those women that decided to go full term, keep the child dispite the doctors fear tactics that things might, can, or will go wrong. They are many mind you, not few. Over the years I can't count the times, or the lame reasons, I have heard the medical field try to scare a couple or woman out of having a baby.
Beware of a candidate saying that children are our heritage and then say they are pro-abortion.
They are by definition oxy-morons and hypocrites.
The father's wishes should be considered, absolutely. In fact, the rights of fathers are rarely mentioned in our society. There is a lot of stereotyping involved that is negative. While of course the rights and wishes of the woman should be considered, it is wrong to completely exclude all men from these decisions.
Beware of a candidate saying that children are our heritage and then say they are pro-abortion.
Brilliant point!
This is a good point.
A father has no choice in either the fate of the fetus nor obligations to the child. It can be argued that a man who does not wish a child should take it upon himself that none is created. It is also a fact that some men are tricked into helping create a child they don't want, and is not so easy to lay blame for trusting a woman in a relationship where trust is assumed.
Similarly, a man can want a child, offer to take full responsibility for raising it, and still have no say whatsoever in the fate of his fetus. This is like forced abortions for men at one level.
Similarly, a man can want a child, offer to take full responsibility for raising it, and still have no say whatsoever in the fate of his fetus. This is like forced abortions for men at one level.
That's very true, and very sad. A tough dilemma ...
Tom, a follow up to your article here.
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